So, tell us a bit about who you are, and how you first got involved with Epiphany Space. Who inspires you?
I had been writing music since I was in elementary school and always knew it was what I wanted to do. I moved to Los Angeles in the fall of 2017 and one of the first things I did my first week here, was Google “open mics in LA.” I called around and the first 5 places or so I called told me their open mic that was listed was no longer active. I began to feel discouraged, but then I rang up Epiphany Space. I spoke to Cortney on the phone and she told me the open mic was still very much active and happening that night, but that it was really more of a songwriter share, and asked if that was okay. I thought that was even cooler than an open mic and drove to Hollywood very excited.
It was such a special space because contrary to some other open mics in LA, people really listened and cared for the other artists in the room. I got so inspired by the other artists who I am now lucky to call my friends: Cortney, Ben, Katie, Lloyd, Brandon, and Tim! It was such a lovely night because not only did you get to share the delicate art you’d been creating from your soul, you got to hear feedback in real-time about what resonated with the audience, as well as ways to make your song even better.
What creative people or creative works make you say, “I want to do that”?
Someone I’ve been really inspired by lately is an artist named Julia Wolf. She has this really dope half-sung, half-rapped flow in her music. Something I really love about her is that she has almost no love songs in her discography and has instead found unique subject matter that a lot of people don’t touch on, like how she feels around strangers. Especially as a songwriter who’s been single for 3 years, it’s really cool to know it’s possible to make amazing music that resonates with people, even if it’s not about the universal theme of love.
What are some of the challenges you’ve faced along the way, and how did you deal with them?
I think the biggest challenge is realizing your music success progresses at about a 4 times slower rate than we’d like it to. I’ve really had to work on my patience and letting go of control of external circumstances. I’ve gone through a couple of different producers, and when one didn’t work out it really tripped me up for a while. I’ve learned sometimes you just have to take a step back from the reins and let the universe work its magic. I now finally have a consistent producer I’ve done my last 3 songs with. My producer Jay actually found me. He heard one of my songs through the Spotify algorithm and reached out to me on Instagram with a really sweet message about my music. I liked him instantly because his message didn’t feel like a transaction, it was simply heartfelt. I checked out his stuff and we arranged a phone call and he ended up being the exact collaborator I needed. We communicate our musical ideas really well together!
Are you working on anything cool or interesting right now? Anything you’d like to tell us about?
Yes! I just finished up a song with Jay called “Broken Men.” You know what they say, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. It’s a song that’s filled with empowering rage. Whenever I’ve played this song live, I always have a couple women come up to me and tell me that they’ve been through a similar situation with a guy and feel catharsis hearing this tune. So I’m really excited to have this out in the world. I hope anyone scorned in love can scream-sing it in their car, and use it as a form of therapy and healing from the person who didn’t treat them right.
Where do you see your creative journey taking you? What would you like to be doing, say, five years from now?
Five years from now I see myself having a solid enough fanbase to tour around the country for about 3 months a year, and supporting myself financially solely through my music. I absolutely love performing live, there’s nothing like it. In my day-to-day life, I am relatively even-tempered with my emotions. Performing is the place I give myself permission to let loose with my emotions. The way I express myself on stage is really heightened. It’s therapeutic for me and I hope that authenticity is therapeutic for the crowd. I’d love to have performing be a routine part of my life for a good portion of the year. I also really love the sanctuary of my home though, so I’d want to make sure I could keep that balance of having some time on the road and some time back in my Los Angeles apartment by the beach.
What advice would you give to other artists and creatives in your field? Any words of wisdom for those looking to follow in your footsteps?
Patience is a virtue. Especially in the way the internet and social media have reconditioned our brains, we want everything when we want it. It can be really frustrating to know we’ve put in the work and time but not see the results quite yet. I believe that timing is everything. If I had gotten fame quickly when I moved here 6 years ago, I would be thrown into a world where people leech onto you and use you, at a time when I didn’t know how to speak my mind. Since then I’ve gone to therapy and really developed a vocabulary for how to stick up for myself. I’ve also built a strong community of friends who are truly quality humans. They show up for me in ways that make me so awestruck and grateful. I’m lucky to know those people are friends with me for me, and not what I can do for them. My advice would be to find that community for yourself. Having that support system is just as, if not more, important than achieving your career goals. Because when you achieve those goals, you want people around you who will genuinely celebrate you. And make sure you show up for those people and celebrate them as well.